chevysoldier Posted January 3, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 3, 2011 Nice thread' date=' Chevy. The only thing I would like to add, if it hasn't been addressed already, is that carrying a gun for protection is a very serious responsibility. It doesn't end with keeping your finger off the trigger, making sure your weapon is clean/functional, using a quality holster, etc. If you are going to carry a gun for defense, load it with premium defense rounds. Round nose bullets are not for personal defense. Carrying a weapon for defense that is loaded with target ammunition is irresponsible. I won't get into why you should carry a round chambered, because that's definitely a personal choice that won't affect anyone but yourself if the need for drawing/shooting presents itself. I will say that in a DFE it's probably a lot safer to draw and click the safety than it is to draw and rack a slide. This all depends on how you exercise and train with your weapon.Very good point IP. I think I have some literature expanding on this subject. I'll see if I can find it later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eggs Posted January 3, 2011 Report Share Posted January 3, 2011 Good points Isaac's Papa. +1 on all of them.Carrying a firearm is a very serious responsibility. That brings me to the important issue of "duty to retreat". I think it means if you have a firearm and can get to safety and not escalate a situation, then you should. For instance if soemone is threating you and you leave and get your firearm, then they try to hurt you so in "self defense " you shoot them, then you could be held liable. INAL (I'm Not A Lawyer) but I think..that's the gist of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chevysoldier Posted January 3, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 3, 2011 Don't forget about the Castle Doctrine eggs.http://www.buckeyefirearms.org/node/5973/Sec 2925.05 (B)(1) Subject to division (B)(2) of this section, a person is presumed to have acted in self defense or defense of another when using defensive force that is intended or likely to cause death or great bodily harm to another if the person against whom the defensive force is used is in the process of unlawfully and without privilege to do so entering, or has unlawfully and without privilege to do so entered, the residence or vehicle occupied by the person using the defensive force. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chevysoldier Posted January 6, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2011 Okay. I have notice some people being confused on firearm storage in a vehicle while in possession of a CHL. http://codes.ohio.gov/orc/2923.162923.16 Improperly handling firearms in a motor vehicle.<removed for post>(E) No person who has been issued a license or temporary emergency license to carry a concealed handgun under section 2923.125 or 2923.1213 of the Revised Code shall do any of the following:(1) Knowingly transport or have a loaded handgun in a motor vehicle unless one of the following applies:(a) The loaded handgun is in a holster on the person’s person.(b) The loaded handgun is in a closed case, bag, box, or other container that is in plain sight and that has a lid, a cover, or a closing mechanism with a zipper, snap, or buckle, which lid, cover, or closing mechanism must be opened for a person to gain access to the handgun.© The loaded handgun is securely encased by being stored in a closed glove compartment or vehicle console or in a case that is locked.(2) If the person is transporting or has a loaded handgun in a motor vehicle in a manner authorized under division (E)(1) of this section, knowingly remove or attempt to remove the loaded handgun from the holster, case, bag, box, container, or glove compartment, knowingly grasp or hold the loaded handgun, or knowingly have contact with the loaded handgun by touching it with the person’s hands or fingers while the motor vehicle is being operated on a street, highway, or public property unless the person removes, attempts to remove, grasps, holds, or has the contact with the loaded handgun pursuant to and in accordance with directions given by a law enforcement officer;<removed for post>(K) As used in this section:(1)”Motor vehicle,” “street,” and “highway” have the same meanings as in section 4511.01 of the Revised Code.(2)”Occupied structure” has the same meaning as in section 2909.01 of the Revised Code.(3) “Agriculture” has the same meaning as in section 519.01 of the Revised Code.(4)”Tenant” has the same meaning as in section 1531.01 of the Revised Code.(5)”Unloaded” means any of the following:(a) No ammunition is in the firearm in question, and no ammunition is loaded into a magazine or speed loader that may be used with the firearm in question and that is located anywhere within the vehicle in question, without regard to where ammunition otherwise is located within the vehicle in question. For the purposes of division (K)(5)(a) of this section, ammunition held in stripper-clips or in en-bloc clips is not considered ammunition that is loaded into a magazine or speed loader.(b) With respect to a firearm employing a percussion cap, flintlock, or other obsolete ignition system, when the weapon is uncapped or when the priming charge is removed from the pan.(6) “Commercial motor vehicle” has the same meaning as in division (A) of section 4506.25 of the Revised Code.(7) “Motor carrier enforcement unit” means the motor carrier enforcement unit in the department of public safety, division of state highway patrol, that is created by section 5503.34 of the Revised Code.Amended by 128th General Assembly File No. 9, HB 1, § 101.01, eff. 10/16/2009.Effective Date: 04-08-2004; 03-14-2007; 2008 SB209 06-25-2008; 2008 SB184 09-09-2008 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chevysoldier Posted February 19, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2011 4th quarter 2010 Attorney General CHL statsLicenses Issued 10,753Licenses Renewed 3,018Licenses Suspended 167Licenses Revoked 43Licenses Denied 145License Processes Suspended 29http://www.ohioattorneygeneral.gov/getattachment/afa3a228-e287-4c64-aeba-fb236614cda6/2010-Q4-Concealed-Carry-Stats.aspx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonik Posted February 19, 2011 Report Share Posted February 19, 2011 Question, if you have conceal carry licence, and you are on a motorcycle, how is that treated? can you keep your firearm hidden/concealed in a holster, just like you would in a car?A motorcycle is just like a car. So if the weapon is 'loaded' then it is a concealed carry and all the same rules apply to the bike as the car. "the plain sight provision has been removed from the law"This refers to the original concealed carry law for in/on a vehicle, used to have to keep them in plain sight if they were in a holster on your person.My tip for the thread:Remember a loaded mag in/on the vehicle instantly means the gun is loaded and you are carrying concealed. Put your gun in a safe in the trunk and put a loaded mag in a safe in the backseat and per the law you are still carrying concealed. So if you have a drink you can't pop the mag out and be legal...you have to empty the mag also and then you are not carrying...you are transporting a weapon and it has to be stored properly per those rules. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jporter12 Posted February 19, 2011 Report Share Posted February 19, 2011 Remember a loaded mag in/on the vehicle instantly means the gun is loaded and you are carrying concealed. Put your gun in a safe in the trunk and put a loaded mag in a safe in the backseat and per the law you are still carrying concealed. So if you have a drink you can't pop the mag out and be legal...you have to empty the mag also and then you are not carrying...you are transporting a weapon and it has to be stored properly per those rules.I like the way you put that, referring to if you have a drink! On a side note, but sort of related, I can see myself buying another lockbox, or a small safe for the house, and keeping my nanovault in the car, once I get my permit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chevysoldier Posted March 16, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2011 Here are some pistol drills. These will help with your form, accuracy and speed.Remember safety first. Read the entire drill before practicing. Some of these are dry fire drills so be positive you firearm is unloaded and still point it in a safe direction. Train at your own risk.The Cardinal Rules of Firearms SafetyAll guns are always loaded. Even if they are not, treat them as if they are.Never let the muzzle point at anything you are not willing to destroy.Keep your finger off the trigger until your sights are on the target and you have made the decision to fire.Identify your target and what is behind it. Never shoot at anything you have not positively identified.This is a good one to start with.http://pistol-training.com/drills/wall-drillOther drills and information.http://pistol-training.com/drills Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chevysoldier Posted March 16, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2011 (edited) Are your shots not going where you are aiming? Before you start adjusting your sights, maybe it you as the shooter and not the firearm itself. This is for right handed shooters. If you are a leftie, just flip it over. Edited March 16, 2011 by chevysoldier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chevysoldier Posted March 16, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2011 (edited) Extensive list I found of some gun sites. I haven't verified all these so some might not work. If you are going through them and find ones that don't work or find others, PM me and I will update this list.Gun Forums:www.gundirectory.com/forums.aspwww.1911forum.comwww.10mmtalk.comwww.24hourcampfire.comwww.ak47.net www.ar15.comwww.ar15armory.comwww.assaultweb.net/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgiwww.battlerifles.comwww.benelliusa.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi www.berettaforum.netwww.brianenos.com/forumshttp://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/index.phpwww.combatcarry.com/vbulletin/www.czshooters.com/modules.php?name=Forumswww.falfiles.com/forumswww.familyfriendsfirearms.comwww.fivesevenforum.com/forums/index.php http://forums.cheaperthandirt.com/index.phphttp://forums.officer.com/forumshttp://forum.m1911.orghttp://forums.handgunplace.com/index.php www.glocktalk.comwww.graybeardoutdoors.com/phpbb2/index.phpwww.gunforums.comwww.gunandgame.com/forums/www.gunchat.netwww.gunsnet.net/forums/index.php? www.handgunforum.netwww.handgunplace.comwww.hardcoretalk.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgihttp://hipoint.7.forumer.comhttp://hipowertalk.com/forum/www.hk94.com/hk/index.phphttp://hkpro.websolv.comwww.hs2000talk.com/index.phpwww.jouster.com/CSP_forums.htm www.ktog.org/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi http://luger.gunboards.com/ http://forum.lugerforum.com/index.php?s=http://forum.m1911.org/www.m4carbine.netwww.mdshooters.com/forum.php http://mp-pistol.com/boards/portal.phphttp://militaria.gunboards.com/http://forums.military.com/groupee/forumswww.naaminis.com/cgi-bin/discus/discus.cgiwww.northeastshooters.com/vbulletin/index.php www.odcmp.org/new_forumwww.oregonconcealedcarry.com www.theothersideofkim.com/index.php/forums www.packing.org/community/www.parkcitiestactical.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi www.pistolsmith.com/index.phpwww.polite-society.org/http://proguns.proboards92.com/ http://p201.ezboard.com/bczechpistols82792 http://p223.ezboard.com/bcurioandrelicfirearmsforum http://www.pistolsmith.com/index.phphttp://forums.sixgunner.com/www.rugerforum.comwww.thefirearmsforum.comwww.thefiringline.comwww.thehighroad.orghttp://www.theprepared.com/forum/ www.savageshooters.net/SavageForum/index.phphttp://www.selfdefenseforums.com/forums/index.php www.sigforum.comwww.sigforums.com/forums/ http://www.shootersville.net/www.smith-wessonforum.comwww.smithandwessonforums.com/groupee/forumshttp://www.snipershide.com/ubb/ultimatebb.phphttp://forums.sixgunner.com/http://strategosforum.com/phpBBx/index.phpwww.tacticalforums.com/ www.thefirearmsforum.com/www.thefiringline.com/forums/www.warriortalk.comhttp://www.xdtalk.comhttp://9x19mm.comGun related but no forums.www.thearmedcitizen.comwww.theboxotruth.com www.gunsworld.comwww.memorableplaces.com/m1garand/garandlinks.html www.packing.org www.headsbunker.com www.defensereview.com Edited March 16, 2011 by chevysoldier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kawi kid Posted March 16, 2011 Report Share Posted March 16, 2011 Are your shots not going where you are aiming? Before you start adjusting your sights, maybe it you as the shooter and not the firearm itself.This chart is for right handers. Lefties like me just flip it and then read. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chevysoldier Posted March 16, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2011 This chart is for right handers. Lefties like me just flip it and then read. I forget there are lefties out there. lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chevysoldier Posted May 13, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2011 Is there anything else anyone else thinks should be in this thread or has questions about? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Punk Posted May 13, 2011 Report Share Posted May 13, 2011 (edited) What is the safest gun? Edited May 13, 2011 by Uncle Punk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chevysoldier Posted May 13, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2011 What it the safest gun?The one strapped on your hip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Punk Posted May 13, 2011 Report Share Posted May 13, 2011 Shouldn't everyone carry a .45 because they are the safest? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InyaAzz Posted May 13, 2011 Report Share Posted May 13, 2011 (edited) I don't know which one is the safest, but according to this picture, the green one in the upper left is the most dangerous one to have on you.EDIT: One of Osama's pals with his carry firearm..picture removed Edited May 13, 2011 by InyaAzz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disclaimer Posted May 13, 2011 Report Share Posted May 13, 2011 And this thread just went NSFW.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Punk Posted May 13, 2011 Report Share Posted May 13, 2011 If guns are dangerous why would anyone have one? Can't we all agree what is the safest model, caliber and the safest way to carry them? It should be the same for everyone right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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chevysoldier Posted August 7, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 7, 2011 Having a good stance is one key to good shooting. These are three commonly used pistol using stances. I personally use the weaver stance. This is the most comfortable for me to shoot from. In a combat or tactical situation by "blading" your body, or turning slightly to the side, this gives you a lower profile. The drawback is that body armor tends to not protect the side of your body and can allow a single bullet to strike more major organs. If you are only target shooting then it isn't a big deal.With the weaver and modified weaver stances, your gun hand presses out against your non-gun hand while your non-gun hand pulls in against your gun hand. Push-pull.With the isosceles stance, each hand presses toward the center against each other. For most people this is the easiest and most comfortable to accomplish because pressure is split evenly between each side of your body.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pR3L0fcEzfkhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I01I-LkU3jAhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSvB9-pjv78 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chevysoldier Posted August 7, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 7, 2011 Another important key is trigger control. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0weVtVixmQ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chevysoldier Posted August 7, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 7, 2011 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDefBifuEGEhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KskHo-qtOyU Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chevysoldier Posted August 7, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 7, 2011 Fighting with a shotgun. A good read.http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/edu83.htmBrowse the rest of www.theboxotruth.com. Lot's of stuff in there.Shotgun combat loading:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7AjaNwtKww Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lammiepie615 Posted August 7, 2011 Report Share Posted August 7, 2011 Pretty badass loading Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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