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It'll be mainstream within the next few years.

http://ethanol.org/

Most 2007 Ford and GM vehicles are FlexFuel, meaning they will use either Gasoline or E85. E85 is the most popular form of ethanol. It is 85% ethanol, 15% gasoline. Ford has had FlexFuel vehicles in the mid-90s. Its finally starting to take off.

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Using ethanol benefits everyone. Finally the farmers of America will get the money they deserve. It burns cleaner. Its cheaper (not a whole lot right now, but will be drastically cheaper once mass produced like gasoline).

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Ben, CSCCs Andy Rezin (my father in law) used to sit and may still sit on the clean fuels board for Ohio. http://www.cocfc.org/board.asp He told me that we will be having an E85 refinery in Bowling Green Ohio soon. When that happens it will explode all over Ohio especially with all the tax benefits to gas stations that carry it.

I am a big advocate for this also, more headroom before Detonation, great for forced induction, screw Alcy injection......My plan is to tune my STI for this, but I need to fix some aluminum parts first.

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When gas is as cheap as it is e85 is a rip off. What you save per gallon you loose more in economy. Wifes 07 impala gets around 29 mpg highway with gas and only 19 ish on e85. At current gas prices it would have to be $1.20 or less before I'd fill up with it, and the nearest staions to me it only 13 cents less than gas.

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It more than double the cost to produce ethanol compared to crude oil production.  We pay for it in taxes and pay at the grocery because it drives up food cost.  It's just a bad idea all around.  Paying farmers not to produce is bad too.

Its all about the lobby and propping commodity prices.

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As it currently stands, we actually use MORE ENERGY (in terms of BTUs) of FOSSIL FUEL in the planting/fertilizing/growing/harvesting/drying process of agriculture of corn for fuel than it produces.  It's a negative sum game, and only financially feasible due to the subsidy the federal government pays to the farmer for growing it.  If the conversion of biomass to ethanol ever becomes economically feasible, then maybe I can accept the rationale behind using ethanol as a fuel.  Until then, it's nothing more than a political lie about "sustainability" being fed to the consumer.  And it fucks up my carbs and plastic tanks and other fuel components.

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I am a fan of e85 from a performance stand point.  I am getting ready to start my blown 3800 build and i,am going to a e85 setup. I can run more timimg and  boost with e85 that's available at the pump and at a fraction of the cost of turbo blue.  But the lower cost per gallon of running e85 is offset by the amount of more fuel than is required for it in run in any engine witch is about 20 to30% more fuel per cylinder.  

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Just now, o-no-moto said:

I am a fan of e85 from a performance stand point.  I am getting ready to start my blown 3800 build and i,am going to a e85 setup. I can run more timimg and  boost with e85 that's available at the pump and at a fraction of the cost of turbo blue.  But the lower cost per gallon of running e85 is offset by the amount of more fuel than is required for it in run in any engine witch is about 20 to30% more fuel per cylinder.  

With boost E85 rocks. 

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