serpentracer 2,242 Report post Posted January 22 (edited) we have allowed communism to have control of our government. this is a disgusting time in our history. biden is a tyrannical nightmare. Edited January 22 by serpentracer Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tonik 12,785 Report post Posted January 23 Jesus man, they murdered police officers, planted pipe bombs, tried to over throw the election results and thus over throw the legitimate president elect. So yea, they are terrorists by any sane definition of the word. Textbook definition. 2 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pauly 1,460 Report post Posted January 23 Been saying it for a while.. America is chock full o' stupid. Faith and feelings outweigh science and fact in celebratory ignorance as we dance to our own demise. And sorry if anyone disagrees, but they fit the FBI's definition if terrorism. I do feel sorry for the really dumb ones that were caught up in the romance of it all, but my dad used to tell me that the company I keep is a reflection of my own morals and to be careful who I associate with. 4 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
motocat12 1,117 Report post Posted January 23 (edited) 11 hours ago, Tonik said: Jesus man, they murdered police officers, planted pipe bombs, tried to over throw the election results and thus over throw the legitimate president elect. So yea, they are terrorists by any sane definition of the word. Textbook definition. Were there terrorists 4 years ago? over 200 arrested 6 police injured. If there were equal police blocking both times it could have been the same or worse. Monkey see monkey do. Edited January 23 by motocat12 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
motocat12 1,117 Report post Posted January 23 https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/apr/29/donald-trump-california-republican-convention-protesters-arrested-video Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
B-Mac 697 Report post Posted January 23 (edited) This will ALL be taken care of by Susan Rice, heading up the Domestic Policy Council with DNI, DHS, FBI support. The NEW threat "Domestic Extremism" To identify all the domestic terrorism threats, quantify the risks, develop a plan to disrupt and follow through on that plan with multiple agencies working in concert. America, "It's over Johnny" RIDE SAFE! Com. Goals.pdf Edited January 23 by B-Mac Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
serpentracer 2,242 Report post Posted January 23 (edited) 18 hours ago, Tonik said: Jesus man, they murdered police officers, planted pipe bombs, tried to over throw the election results and thus over throw the legitimate president elect. So yea, they are terrorists by any sane definition of the word. Textbook definition. that's the ok for me but not for thee mindset.... I'm not defending anyone at the captiol protest. but it was mostly peaceful. the left had terrorized cities all summer and they were encouraged to keep doing it by the government on the left. but now that one shows up on their turf they call in the army. but these are allowed to keep happening with impunity, Edited January 23 by serpentracer 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
serpentracer 2,242 Report post Posted January 23 (edited) no one at this riot will be on a government watch list you bet your ass on it. Edited January 23 by serpentracer 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strictly Street 1,018 Report post Posted January 25 Not going to take sides on this one except to note the media coverage of both sides has been less than even handed. It does seem to show that the media leans a bit Democrat, yes even Fox since they were bought out. No matter which side your on I'm betting on a very interesting next few years. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bad324 21,596 Report post Posted January 27 Anyone that supports any politician or political party to this level is the antithesis of what America was built on. The two party system isn't here for you and I anymore, it's only point is to continue to fleece Americans and line the pockets of those that have manipulated their way in to positions of power Every last one of them needs to go and be replaced while getting rid of the two party system 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snot 8,624 Report post Posted January 28 Do it like we did in high school.... Most votes = pres. 2nd = vice pres..... Could you imagine if Trump was vice to Biden....lol Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
motocat12 1,117 Report post Posted January 28 45 minutes ago, snot said: Do it like we did in high school.... Most votes = pres. 2nd = vice pres..... Could you imagine if Trump was vice to Biden....lol that would flip the senate for one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jschaf 1,771 Report post Posted January 29 On 1/27/2021 at 2:37 PM, Bad324 said: Every last one of them needs to go and be replaced while getting rid of the two party system Are you proposing a 1 party system or a more than 2 party system to get rid of the grifters? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snot 8,624 Report post Posted January 29 58 minutes ago, jschaf said: Are you proposing a 1 party system or a more than 2 party system to get rid of the grifters? I am proposing news that would be fun to watch...... Imagine what it would have been like if Bush would have been vice to Obama or Hillary vice the last 4.... In truth it might force them to actually due what is best for the US and not their own agendas and parties. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jbot 33,448 Report post Posted January 29 it's not ok to riot in the streets of portland and it's not ok to mob the capitol building. why is this hard? get it together, people. 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimTheAzn 2,399 Report post Posted January 29 On 1/22/2021 at 11:18 PM, Pauly said: but my dad used to tell me that the company I keep is a reflection of my own morals and to be careful who I associate with. But you still hang out with me 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bad324 21,596 Report post Posted January 29 19 hours ago, jschaf said: Are you proposing a 1 party system or a more than 2 party system to get rid of the grifters? I propose no parties where they can all team up and fuck over everyone else. Actual independent, representatives of the voters that have strict term limits and not career politicians is my preference. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snot 8,624 Report post Posted January 29 Or tournament style, make them fight in the ring... 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
durk 617 Report post Posted January 30 4 hours ago, Bad324 said: I propose no parties where they can all team up and fuck over everyone else. Actual independent, representatives of the voters that have strict term limits and not career politicians is my preference. I’ve heard term limits from multiple people and I keep thinking to myself we can make that happen. When these folks that have been sucking off the system for too long come up for re-election, vote them out. The problem is most won’t vote for the other party. I’m not sure why that is because it seems to me neither side is really concerned about your average Joe. Both sides say they are, but they’re really just concerned about your vote. I feel the riots and the capital building are a prime example. When businesses were being looted and burned I personally didn’t see much concern. It seemed as though the attitude was well people are people and they’ll do what they do. Then when the crap landed on their front door step, it was time to hold these punks accountable for their actions. Maybe it’s just my perspective but I didn’t see anybody combing through videos to hold those that looted and destroyed businesses accountable. I have no problem holding those that invaded the capital accountable. I just wish all were held accountable. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dustinsn3485 1,185 Report post Posted January 30 Isn't this what the previous president was doing? He was the biggest disruptor of the two party system there's been in a long time...There's no way to get into Washington if you're not on one of the big party tickets, however he broke through riding on the conservative ticket and disrupted all of Washington. If people could get past the hatred of the man and look at all the dirt he uncovered, the media bias, the political corruption... Most of what's been discussed in this thread is the direction we were moving, but the hate for one man over shadowed all of that. People don't like change even though that what they're crying for. 1 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AreYouSerious? 4 Report post Posted January 30 Disruptive, true. Yet, a textbook case of why you don't let the patient run the asylum. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bad324 21,596 Report post Posted February 1 (edited) On 1/29/2021 at 10:56 PM, durk said: I’ve heard term limits from multiple people and I keep thinking to myself we can make that happen. When these folks that have been sucking off the system for too long come up for re-election, vote them out. The problem is most won’t vote for the other party. and that's exactly why the two party system needs to go. Groupthink is out of control in so many aspects of this country and it's citizens. Edited February 1 by Bad324 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snot 8,624 Report post Posted February 1 On 1/30/2021 at 11:18 AM, AreYouSerious? said: Disruptive, true. Yet, a textbook case of why you don't let the patient run the asylum. But sometimes it is the doctor that is crazy. There are too many different rules. For instance in Ohio a felon can not vote, but they can in other states, why? The rules should be the same from state to state.... Otherwise we are not "United" but divided. Same for taxes, some states dont have state tax, just sales tax (TN). If weed is legal in one it should be all. If murder = death in one it should all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jbot 33,448 Report post Posted February 4 taking control of those things away from states would be pretty unconstitutional though. 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
motocat12 1,117 Report post Posted February 27 On 1/22/2021 at 9:33 PM, Tonik said: Jesus man, they murdered police officers, planted pipe bombs, tried to over throw the election results and thus over throw the legitimate president elect. So yea, they are terrorists by any sane definition of the word. Textbook definition. To follow up on the policeman part - Sicknick’s brother told ProPublica shortly after the riot that he had heard from Sicknick about pepper spray, and that the family was told he had a blood clot and a stroke. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites