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I'm looking at the TomTom Rider 550.  It has lifetime map updates, Wifi (no pc connection needed), and a setting to find twisty, hilly roads.  Seems decent.

I've never used anything TomTom before.   Are there any better ones I should look at?  Why? 

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I think any of the newer name brand ones are about on the same level playing field. With that being said keep an eye out on sites like ADV rider. Sometime you can find them cheap. I picked up my Garmin zumo 590 for less than half price of a new one on there. A guy bought it and used it on one trip then sold it. I do like my Garmin because it has the smart link to my phone and bluetooth and also has a remote app for my garmin VIRB action cam. 

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I don't have any insight on the Tom Tom. I'm certain that it's good. I've had the Garmin Zumo 396 for a few months. It has the same features that you listed for the Tom Tom plus the smartlink to the phone features that Tim noted. It took SEVERAL rides till I learned how easy it can be to use. Stoopid people who have never used a GPS wrote their instructions. A huge feature for me is that the Garmins seem to be the ones used by folks that organize the group rides I prefer and that makes it easy to share their routes without needing to do any conversions.

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So, I bought the Tomtom Rider 550.

The good

  • The unit is nice.
  • The user interface is intuitive.  It looks nicer and more modern than Garmin's.  The Mydrive app is also pretty nice.
  • It's fast, almost as fast as a smart phone.

The bad

  • It's kinda heavy
  • The mount is unnecessarily thick, and takes up too much real estate.

I'm returning it to buy the Garmin  Zumo 396 LMT-S because the Ninja has limited mounting options/space.  This probably wouldn't be an issue on anything other than a sportbike.  I like the actual unit better than the Garmin, but the lighter/thinner 396 is going to have to work.

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4 minutes ago, Tpoppa said:

So, I bought the Tomtom Rider 550.

The good

  • The unit is nice.
  • The user interface is intuitive.  It looks nicer and more modern than Garmin's.  The Mydrive app is also pretty nice.
  • It's fast, almost as fast as a smart phone.

The bad

  • It's kinda heavy
  • The mount is unnecessarily thick, and takes up too much real estate.

I'm returning it to buy the Garmin  Zumo 396 LMT-S because the Ninja has limited mounting options/space.  This probably wouldn't be an issue on anything other than a sportbike.  I like the actual unit better than the Garmin, but the lighter/thinner 396 is going to have to work.

What ninja?

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1 minute ago, TimTheAzn said:

What ninja?

His new 400. Get with the program... :lol: 

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7 minutes ago, 2talltim said:

His new 400. Get with the program... :lol: 

Yes.  The Ninja 400 is my version of a Grom...but with some actual speed and fun included .. :lol: 

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3 hours ago, Tpoppa said:

Yes.  The Ninja 400 is my version of a Grom...but with some actual speed and fun included .. :lol: 

Cash me on a cart track with that 400 son! :lol:

I ride an sv650, I already know what it feels like being gapped on a straight.

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2 minutes ago, TimTheAzn said:

Cash me on a cart track with that 400 son! :lol:

I ride an sv650, I already know what it feels like being gapped on a straight.

It's a really fun bike.  The handling is super sharp, with almost the same riding position as my VFR1200.

Compared to the VFR1200, I can carry more corner speed on the 400, but the drive out of corners is...ummm...less.

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15 hours ago, Tpoppa said:

 the drive out of corners is...ummm...less.

That's why you carry more entry and corner speed :lol:🍺

 

What size tires are those? You have some decent options?

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Nothing like carrying 12k rpms through a corner. Poor little Ninja is going to rev to the moon until Tony decides to sell it. :lol:

 

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9 minutes ago, Pauly said:

Nothing like carrying 12k rpms through a corner. Poor little Ninja is going to rev to the moon until Tony decides to sell it. :lol:

 

Think if UP owned that thing....

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43 minutes ago, TimTheAzn said:

That's why you carry more entry and corner speed :lol:🍺

 

What size tires are those? You have some decent options?

The stock Dunlop gpr300s do well on the street.  They're even decent on the track per the Ninja 400 track day when it was released.

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28 minutes ago, Pauly said:

Nothing like carrying 12k rpms through a corner. Poor little Ninja is going to rev to the moon until Tony decides to sell it. :lol:

 

I hope she likes it rough.  We're about to find out.

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6 minutes ago, Tpoppa said:

I hope she likes it rough.  We're about to find out.

Remember to pull her hair just as you dip into the corner so she learns her place. 

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It's got 43 more horsepower than an actual horse 🐴

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After owning both of these:  Tomtom Rider 550 vs Gamrin Zumo 396 LMT-S

Software (both on the device and the online route tool) - TomTom is just a better design.  It's more intuitive, faster, and looks like it's 10 years ahead of Garmin.  You can load GPX files from the route tool by Wifi, Gamin still needs to be attached to a PC with a cable.

Hardware -  Garmin is just a better design.  It's slimmer, lighter, and the charging cradle takes up much less space.   TomTom is faster, but other than that it looks like the designers have never actually used a motorcycle GPS.

Neither is perfect, but I hated the TomTom charging cradle so going with the Garmin.

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Why aren't our super expensive phones capable of being the best GPS device we have?

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You should seriously consider the GPS that comes with a Goldwing.

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35 minutes ago, Pauly said:

Why aren't our super expensive phones capable of being the best GPS device we have?

I'm sure there are apps that serve that purpose.  I personally don't like the possibility of being separated from my phone when I ride.  I don't think my phone would hold up well to the vibration or weather.

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44 minutes ago, Tonik said:

You should seriously consider the GPS that comes with a Goldwing.

Considered something along those lines, but I prefer flogging little bikes.  Plus they keep me out of trouble.

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12 hours ago, Pauly said:

Why aren't our super expensive phones capable of being the best GPS device we have?

Most people don't use their phones as lap timers for example, so the phone manufacturers only put in gps modules good enough for navigation but not with a good enough update rate to be uber accurate. 

Higher update rate = more money

Companies rather produce at a low cost and sell at a high cost. :dunno:

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