durk Posted April 4, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 4, 2017 Thanks for all the input guys. @blue03636 the video made sense as I watched it. Now as long as I did not bite off more than I can chew by diving into checking and possibly adjusting the valves on the bike I'll hopefully be making sense of what you guys are saying. (servicing a single cylinder Atv's valves sure is a lot easier than this) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jester_ Posted April 5, 2017 Report Share Posted April 5, 2017 I really struggled with this until I got the R6. I used put 100% of my weight on my inside leg and would get wore out physically very fast. With the R6 its just natural to have the outside knee engaged with the tank to share some of the load. Yes you need to hook your outside leg however, your rear end feel comes from the foot pegs, not your butt or outside knee. You need to have enough pressure to be engaged with the bike and feel whats going on and make throttle adjustments if necessary. You also want as little weight as possible on your arms, you will make your arm stiff which will lock up the steering head and the bike wont feel like its turning. Also taking weight off of your hands will provide front end feedback and help the bike turn better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gixxus Christ! Posted April 5, 2017 Report Share Posted April 5, 2017 3 hours ago, Jester_ said: I really struggled with this until I got the R6. I used put 100% of my weight on my inside leg and would get wore out physically very fast. With the R6 its just natural to have the outside knee engaged with the tank to share some of the load. Yes you need to hook your outside leg however, your rear end feel comes from the foot pegs, not your butt or outside knee. You need to have enough pressure to be engaged with the bike and feel whats going on and make throttle adjustments if necessary. You also want as little weight as possible on your arms, you will make your arm stiff which will lock up the steering head and the bike wont feel like its turning. Also taking weight off of your hands will provide front end feedback and help the bike turn better. i have a lot of trouble with taking the weight off my hands. something i try to work on when i'm riding but i find it hard to concentrate on that while i'm also using up a lot of system resources to control the bike and interpret road feel and make control adjustments. maybe i should just get a cruiser Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jester_ Posted April 5, 2017 Report Share Posted April 5, 2017 Focus on one thing at a time, then it will gradually become muscle memory and it will just be a natural thing to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
durk Posted April 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 5, 2017 Prior to a ride where Danimal was following me I was riding cross threaded. He informed me at a stop on the ride of what I was doing. He politely gave me some pointers on how to go about fixing this. That is what got me to start reading about positioning and I thought I was starting to figure it out. Then after my reread of Twist of the Wrist I discovered this concept. So I guess it's back to the drawing board. I can tell you when I rode cross threaded I definitely had a lot of weight on the bars and my arms would get tired. Pretty sure I have gotten away from cross threading and I feel I'm light on the bars. I know what you mean about using up your resources. That's why I only thought about this outside peg on my last decent set of twisties on my ride Sunday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gixxus Christ! Posted April 5, 2017 Report Share Posted April 5, 2017 i gotta blow the winter cobwebs out of my brain before i do anything. i've been on 2 decent hour-long rides so far this spring, both on roads I know pretty well, moderate sweepers with a few good sharp turns and one 270* high banked turn i call the corkscrew. hoping to put a lot more miles in this year than i did last year too. maybe even appear at a group ride. i assume that by cross threaded you mean the bike leans left and you lean right at the hips to keep your body somewhat upright? i rode like that for years and had no idea i was doing it wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
durk Posted April 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 5, 2017 25 minutes ago, CrazySkullCrusher said: i assume that by cross threaded you mean the bike leans left and you lean right at the hips to keep your body somewhat upright? i rode like that for years and had no idea i was doing it wrong. Exactly. I think Code calls it pushing the bike under. I fought breaking that habit most of last year. Before I rode this year I set the bike on stands and practiced hanging/leaning off. Sunday was the first ride this year where I felt the roads were clean and I could really focus on what I was doing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gixxus Christ! Posted April 5, 2017 Report Share Posted April 5, 2017 yeah, I learned what proper body position is here. I really learned a lot about riding from people on this forum, I joined shortly after buying my first sport bike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motocat12 Posted April 5, 2017 Report Share Posted April 5, 2017 1 hour ago, durk said: I was riding cross threaded. I've heard of crossed-up... It doesn't leave you needing tapped to a larger size. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gixxus Christ! Posted April 5, 2017 Report Share Posted April 5, 2017 sometimes you can just run the same size tap back through the hole... i've shifted too hard mid turn resulting in a crossed-up wheelie before...scared the fuck out of me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
durk Posted April 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 5, 2017 31 minutes ago, motocat12 said: I've heard of crossed-up... It doesn't leave you needing tapped to a larger size. See how screwed up I was. I didn't even know what it was called. I'm a math teacher. Concepts are more important to me than words. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimTheAzn Posted April 5, 2017 Report Share Posted April 5, 2017 1 hour ago, durk said: See how screwed up I was. I didn't even know what it was called. I'm a math teacher. Concepts are more important to me than words. Do you do private tutoring? Jk, I have a calculator and the Internet. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post blue03636 Posted April 5, 2017 Popular Post Report Share Posted April 5, 2017 3 minutes ago, TimTheAzn said: Do you do private tutoring? Jk, I have a calculator and the Internet. Worst Asian ever. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimTheAzn Posted April 5, 2017 Report Share Posted April 5, 2017 20 minutes ago, blue03636 said: Worst Asian ever. Eh, you guys still tolerate me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue03636 Posted April 5, 2017 Report Share Posted April 5, 2017 35 minutes ago, TimTheAzn said: Eh, you guys still tolerate me! It's my Asian fetish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimTheAzn Posted April 5, 2017 Report Share Posted April 5, 2017 38 minutes ago, blue03636 said: It's my Asian fetish Currently researching ways I can lock my tent..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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