scottie.harris Posted May 14, 2013 Report Share Posted May 14, 2013 OPEN CARRY 30 FEET FROM OBAMAhttp://youtu.be/90GboqRIyS8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grapesmuggler27 Posted May 16, 2013 Report Share Posted May 16, 2013 http://www.opposingviews.com/i/society/guns/video-ohio-man-illegally-arrested-open-carry-sparks-3m-lawsuitVideo in link Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadTrainDriver Posted May 16, 2013 Report Share Posted May 16, 2013 1:45 in the video explains everything.Ignorant cop.I hope Mr. Call gets the money he's seeking, and I hope the cop loses his job.I pretty much called it, didn't I Pokey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonik Posted May 16, 2013 Report Share Posted May 16, 2013 1:45 in the video explains everything.Ignorant cop.I hope Mr. Call gets the money he's seeking, and I hope the cop loses his job.I pretty much called it, didn't I Pokey.From what I understand, once the recording he has of the whole thing from the beginning on his phone comes out it is going to be way worse for the cops. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conn-e-rot Posted May 16, 2013 Report Share Posted May 16, 2013 Like I said before Riverside is going to learn a very expensive lesson. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pokey Posted May 16, 2013 Report Share Posted May 16, 2013 1:45 in the video explains everything.Ignorant cop.I hope Mr. Call gets the money he's seeking, and I hope the cop loses his job.I pretty much called it, didn't I Pokey.Yup you and others called it, now we know. This could've been handled in 2 ways, he chose the 1 that is gonna get him allot of money and stood up for his rights, respect from the gun community, hopefully police will learn from this, and the police department in hot water. I still hate open carry, but the law is the law. So will police ever learn, or will they continue to be ignorant? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Assassin Posted May 16, 2013 Report Share Posted May 16, 2013 (edited) According to the law he probably didn't do anything that broke the law.According to common sense, it probably could have been handled in a much better way by both sides. Edited May 16, 2013 by Assassin 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigerpaw Posted May 16, 2013 Report Share Posted May 16, 2013 Having seen the video. The Police were in the wrong. I was wrong for defending the Police in this one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C-bus Posted May 16, 2013 Report Share Posted May 16, 2013 I have no words for this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baggyp Posted May 16, 2013 Report Share Posted May 16, 2013 Not the way the officer should have handled it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerekClouser Posted May 16, 2013 Report Share Posted May 16, 2013 4DAIVI PAI2K5, scottie.harris, Gunner75,How would you have responded to the scene(as a police officer)?The police have the right to 'attempt' to question the guy. If he refuses to answer questions and they see no illegal activities, he is entitled to be free to leave. I'm not sure if someone already answered this, but as soon as I saw the question, I hit quote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pokey Posted May 16, 2013 Report Share Posted May 16, 2013 The police have the right to 'attempt' to question the guy. If he refuses to answer questions and they see no illegal activities, he is entitled to be free to leave. I'm not sure if someone already answered this, but as soon as I saw the question, I hit quote.Where the gray portion of the law comes into play, is at what point if any did they find him suspicious? Many laws are written on purpose with gray areas, and many times it is in the favor of law enforcement, even if the charges were to be dropped later. I am sure that many will come to the realization that open carry just is not worth the trouble or attention it can cause. I have a few good friends that are law enforcement, I am dying to hear what they think about this and what would they more than likely or for sure would have done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunner75 Posted May 16, 2013 Report Share Posted May 16, 2013 Be interesting to see what they have to say. I imagine that they would side with the copsSent from my SPH-L710 using Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pokey Posted May 16, 2013 Report Share Posted May 16, 2013 Be interesting to see what they have to say. I imagine that they would side with the copsSent from my SPH-L710 using Tapatalk 2Not necessarily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snot Posted May 16, 2013 Report Share Posted May 16, 2013 Police were wrong in this case. Really it is sad that the people paid to protect us and our rights, are the people we can't always trust. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerekClouser Posted May 16, 2013 Report Share Posted May 16, 2013 This video is the perfect example of how the law works. And there was someone who called it in as wellhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAlRDGUx-B8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonik Posted May 16, 2013 Report Share Posted May 16, 2013 Not necessarily. Yea, they don't stick together as much as they are accused of. Road to ip for the victory demo with a close cop friend. We ended up talking about the Cleveland shooting of those two crack heads.He was very strong in his condemnation of both the chase and the shoot. Have them a pass on firing at first since he wasn't there but said they number of shots and from so many officers was eel crap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunner75 Posted May 16, 2013 Report Share Posted May 16, 2013 This video is the perfect example of how the law works. And there was someone who called it in as well I am pretty sure everything we've been saying in this thread is exactly whats been said in this video. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pokey Posted May 17, 2013 Report Share Posted May 17, 2013 (edited) I am pretty sure everything we've been saying in this thread is exactly whats been said in this video.Yeah he pretty much put them in their place, once they knew he had them it was pretty comical to see him just ask for his gun back and they readily gave it back to him. This does seem like a very if not identical situation as Dayton, and I wonder had nobody called and complained if police still might have stopped him? And why oh why can't people just mind their own damn business. And I like how this officer reacted to a situation of legal carry, this doesnt seem like it would be very hard for them all to abide by. Of course this could have been staged for all that I know, I hope it is legit though. Edited May 17, 2013 by Pokey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pokey Posted May 17, 2013 Report Share Posted May 17, 2013 (edited) Why does the youtube link sometimes pop up as a video window, and others times just the link? This is beyond annoying, at another site I frequent the youtube video player always shows up. Edited May 17, 2013 by Pokey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pokey Posted May 17, 2013 Report Share Posted May 17, 2013 (edited) Holy shit I just found my brotha from anotha mutha......he has summed up pretty much my entire thought process and belief system in the whole open carry and "it is my right to legally do so" clusterfuck. And yet again the link shows and not the actual video. Well I just went to IE and copied and pasted and it worked.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9abjsU7ibvE&feature=player_detailpage Edited May 17, 2013 by Pokey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4DAIVI PAI2K5 Posted May 17, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 17, 2013 Glad to see some learning has happened. Super job guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunner75 Posted May 17, 2013 Report Share Posted May 17, 2013 Glad to see some learning has happened. Super job guysWell that's only a couple. We've got others here that probably haven't seen itSent from my SPH-L710 using Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4DAIVI PAI2K5 Posted May 17, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 17, 2013 Well that's only a couple. We've got others here that probably haven't seen itSent from my SPH-L710 using Tapatalk 2That is okay. You can't move a mountain in a day. I've accepted the approach that the liberals have used. Slow an steady, use every opportunity to further the cause ever so slightly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiggy74 Posted May 17, 2013 Report Share Posted May 17, 2013 That is okay. You can't move a mountain in a day. I've accepted the approach that the liberals have used. Slow an steady, use every opportunity to further the cause ever so slightly.I personally don't think this means what you think it means. Maybe this is a battle that needs to happen (again), but all these Youtubes of people baiting the cops to argue constitutional rights are certainly accomplishing a goal of creating more awareness regarding the laws around the rights to carry, search and seizure, etc. But I think the general public are going to land on the other side of the fence, stating that they can't believe it's legal to walk around openly carrying a gun, including fully loaded "assault" rifles. I think the only reason they don't know is because it doesn't happen very often.The problem here is that most non-gun owning individuals (notice I said non-gun, not anti-gun) would think an individual walking down the street with a rifle on his back is a potential threat. I know I would, and I'm really really pro-gun. So these people call the cops, and then later find out that the person wasn't acting illegally, to the shock of the people calling the police.Now imagine this scenario happening more and more in our current anti-gun climate, and here comes the anti-gunners touting a new "common sense" measure that people shouldn't be allowed to walk down the street openly carring a gun. My perception is that most Americans would agree that this should not be legal, as it is impossible to determine an armed individual's intent, creates panic, blah blah blah.My perception, and it could be wrong, but I doubt it, is that the general public would agree that open carry should NOT be legal. The only reason that it is still legal is due to the lack of awareness. Whether or not it remains legal after people become more aware is yet to be seen. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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