The mazda I was looking at and pretty much made my mind on is $16,335 before taxes. Talked to the guy, and buying it zero down stretching the payments out would be around $280-$300 a month. I need to get that down to around $200, oh yeah and im not interested in the KIA, if im going to be shelling out money every month for a car I want it to be for a car that I really want. KBB on the grand prix private party value is almost $10,000, so i figure if i could get anywhere close to that it would be several grand in profit.