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Menchies closing permanently. https://fox8.com/news/menchies-closing-all-northeast-ohio-frozen-yogurt-shops-permanently/?fbclid=IwAR3IA-njYg1_uFDMD_Z_hJEqotR0dr_4--mqpiRGye24cYjI3DdPRx3AY5A

I respect your point of view on this, I really do. The only thing I'd say is that I see masks/helmet comparison as I should wear a helmet at all times since they prevent brain injuries...period. That's a true statement but not practical. Thanks for keeping it civil. If we meet, I'd wear a mask near you and buy the first round.

You can't have a civil discussion without personal attacks. Go away until you're mature enough to act like an adult.

I numbered things to keep it straight, not trying to make anything else out of it. 1. This is the question/answer I don't understand the most. You wear a mask for me, but it's my responsibility to wear the mask. If I'm wearing a mask and masks work, you have no need to wear one since I'm already protected. 2. As in number one, if they're wearing masks, they're protected if masks work. 3. I respect your opinion on that and have no qualms about it. I just don't think it works as well as some people want to believe. Just today the CDC reversed it's stance on how covid is spread. They say now that what they said before was a complete mistake (6 month long mistake) that should have never been used as a guideline. Some things are even more clear cut for me like helmet laws. Helmets are obviously the smart way to go and I wear mine. But there's been a few times when I'm taking a quick run to the bank or just a quick jaunt and want the air in my face. I should have the right to do that (and I do in Ohio).

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/09/21/health/cdc-reverts-airborne-transmission-guidance/index.html

Serious questions: -If masks work so well, why do I have to wear one if the other person is wearing one? They're protected from my masklessness if they're wearing one. -If masks work so well, why do we have social distancing mandates or any other mandates? Wear a mask and you're protected.zzzz No mention of any "free thinking", civil rights, legality, heard immunity, mortality rates or anything else. Just two simple common sense questions about masks. I'm not even asking for evidence to back up your claims because what I really want is a logical and rational explanation for why I should be forced to do something that is otherwise legal to not do and makes no sense to me. Because I really believe that 99% of the masks (really more face coverings than masks) are worthless. I would also appreciate civility and leaving out name calling. I feel like if you want to wear a mask that is fine and dandy. But I should not be forced or shamed into wearing one either, especially if you're wearing one and protected.

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You think I'ma piece of shit...I think you're a sheep that's had a lobotomy. Shuttering an entire nation's economy over something that has such a low mortality rate while ignoring other things with higher mortality rates makes no sense. Like protecting the obese guy with hardened arteries that won't help or protect himself.

Because people who are obese, have diabetes, cystic fibrosis, congenital heart disease, cancer, etc... get covid which pushes them over the rainbow bridge. Covid will be listed as what killed them. Not the fact that every time they walk past a graveyard people chase them with shovels. Nope, covid killed them. Now they were able to keep hanging on because most other things that would have pushed them over the edge were known and they were able to stay away from them. But an otherwise non-fatal disease killed them because they were pretty close to dead anyways. Now if a common cold pushed them over the edge, typically a medical examiner would list complications from ..... and all the underlying symptoms would be listed. Now, it's just covid. In most jurisdictions, medical examiners have the final say on what the cause of death is. If the ER doc says you died from a being choked to death, the medical examiner can change it to covid...like George Floyd. No one knew he had covid until after he was dead, so it was likely a very insignificant contributory factor in his death. A more likely contributing factor would have been the drugs in his system. But this method of listing a cause of death, and the inconsistencies of it, lead to all the disbelief by the non-sheep types. People don't wear masks because they're afraid of covid. They wear masks because they're afraid of the government. If they were really afraid of covid, they wouldn't leave their house.

Had this been handled like SARS/Bird Flu/Ebola, where we all lived with no restrictions, it would have been much better. But democrats can't let a crisis go to waste and will do anything to promote their agenda. Now when a viable vaccine is produced, many people will not get it due to the distrust they have for the people driving this pandemonium....er...pandemic.

Most of the US deaths are from NY, a dumbocrat run state and city. Most cases period are from dumbocrat run cities. Trump was one of the first to call for travel bans from countries like China, before Fauci even recommended it. But nice try.

Government is lying to people about covid. It's not as deadly as you think.

https://wcyb.com/news/tennessee-news/covid-19-emails-from-nashville-mayors-office-show-disturbing-revelation?fbclid=IwAR24yeWRxCna8jx-FuYvBP7TcOX5EY0Ji47OOYHzpMtfpLOqKUgCkvjGPBs

That would be great. I'll PM you my cell. I don't have any plans this weekend that I couldn't meet you around.

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IIRC, the ENVO N95 can present a 100% seal. Those and all the way up to a hazmat suit. EDIT ON MASKS: Removing and disposing of a mask is more dangerous from a virology stand point than just wearing it around. It's the same for any contamination protections. And if someone spits in your face (or blows droplets in your face) the virus will enter via your eyes which renders the mask useless. But again, if the mask were effective, we wouldn't need social distancing or restrictions/closings for businesses. I'm not the one moving goal posts. Your closure list can be found here: https://coronavirus.ohio.gov/wps/portal/gov/covid-19/responsible-restart-ohio/continued-business-closures/continued-business-closures Older adult day care services and senior centers. (Will be permitted to open Sept. 21.) Adult day support or vocational habilitation services in congregate settings. (A congregate setting is defined as a single location where more than 10 people are present in confined space.) Rooming and boarding houses, and workers’ camps. Certain entertainment/recreation sites. Includes: Auditoriums, stadiums, arenas. Performance theatres and indoor concert and music halls. Parades, fairs, festivals, and carnivals. (Junior fair activities at county fairs are permitted with 10 p.m. curfew.) Certain spectator sports, sports tournaments, and organized recreational sports leagues. (Skills training, practice, and scrimmages for all sports is permitted. Non-contact and limited-contact sports are permitted. Batting cages, bowling alleys, tennis facilities, and golf courses are permitted to open.) Some public and private pools. (Public pools and club pools regulated by local health departments are permitted to open. Use of swimming pools for single households also is permitted.) I've looked up the numbers and have provided several sources. All I've gotten in return is chest beating egos and irrational backtracking. Right "broseph"?

You're wrong, there are masks that are 100% sealed. Certainly not the bandannas that most people wear which are more detrimental than helpful. FACT All businesses in Ohio have restrictions. Many states still have "non-essential" businesses closed. My numbers are from the CDC. You know...that scientific government organization. 40% asymptomatic (and .026% mortality rate) means it's not something worth trying to make activities that are otherwise legal, illegal. From the CDC again..... 34 percent of premature deaths from heart diseases, prolonging about 92,000 lives Heart disease risks include tobacco use, high blood pressure, high cholesterol, type 2 diabetes, poor diet, overweight, and lack of physical activity. 21 percent of premature cancer deaths, prolonging about 84,500 lives Cancer risks include tobacco use, poor diet, lack of physical activity, overweight, sun exposure, certain hormones, alcohol, some viruses and bacteria, ionizing radiation, and certain chemicals and other substances. 39 percent of premature deaths from chronic lower respiratory diseases, prolonging about 29,000 lives Chronic respiratory disease risks include tobacco smoke, second-hand smoke exposure, other indoor air pollutants, outdoor air pollutants, allergens, and exposure to occupational agents. 33 percent of premature stroke deaths, prolonging about 17,000 lives Stroke risks include high blood pressure, high cholesterol, heart disease, diabetes, overweight, previous stroke, tobacco use, alcohol use, and lack of physical activity. 39 percent of premature deaths from unintentional injuries, prolonging about 37,000 lives Unintentional injury risks include lack of seatbelt use, lack of motorcycle helmet use, unsafe consumer products, drug and alcohol use (including prescription drug misuse), exposure to occupational hazards, and unsafe home and community environments.

If you're that tired of it go away.

The first paragraph The study concluded that moisture retention, reuse, and poor filtration could increase wearers’ risk of infection. N95 masks do work, but there you go again with the "in combination with the 6 feet rule". EDIT: No one wears N95 and no one covers their eyes or other entry points for the virus. Answer these questions please and try to do so without personal attacks. You can be a dickhead in person is you think it's smart: 1. Why do we need 6 feet apart rule if masks work? 2. If masks work, why do we need to continue to shut down everything? 3. Why would you wear a mask or shut down an economy over a virus with a .026% mortality rate? 4. Why would you wear a mask or shut down an economy over a virus with a 40% asymptomatic rate? 5. Why don't we take such drastic measures about things that really are much more deadly?

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I"m going to address just the mask first, not the lack of common sense about why people should wear them. When was the last time someone sneezed and blew snot all over your face? When was the last time someone coughed in your face and sprayed you with spit? I've never had it happen. The virus is so small that most masks don't work to contain it. They might hold back some spit, but the virus will still go though the mask. This is why every "scientific expert" says you have to stay six feet away and wear a mask. Essentially, the virus won't travel more than six feet under normal breathing conditions. Which is odd because if we all stayed more than six feet apart, we shouldn't need to wear masks. And if we wear masks, and/or stayed six feet apart, all businesses should be open. The exception would be an N95 mask with a nose pinch. But the wearer would need to have no makeup, no facial hair and keep a tight seal around the mask. Otherwise, every time the wearer breathes in, they suck in the virus. However, even with an N95 mask (or any mask), the virus can be transmitted though your eyes. So you'd need and N95, plus a full face shield. Cloth masks are the worst yet that's what most people wear. You are actually increasing your risk of not only covid, but every other communicable disease by wearing one. Don't want to believe me? Here's SCIENTIFIC evidence from MIT....https://medical.mit.edu/covid-19-updates/2020/07/do-cloth-masks-work Now for the common sense part (or lack thereof). The current mortality rate for covid is .026%. That's pretty freaking low. Like really low. 40% of people that get it are asymptomatic which means they don't have any symptoms. Those are CDC statistics. Turns out I am one of them. I regularly donate blood and at my last donation I was told I have the antibodies. I caught the kung flu and it had zero affect on me. I'm an older guy and according to the guberment I should be on a ventilator. If you're in a high risk group, you should be taking precautions. But IIRC, 90% or 95% of the population in this country is not a high risk group. There are so many other things that have much higher mortality rates that worrying about covid just doesn't make sense. Obesity kill way more than covid, but how many fat people are wearing masks yet not losing weight? If people are scared and want to wear a mask, I have no problem with that. If someone with covid is near you, you have your mask on and will not catch it. But if you need to be more than six feet from them, why do you even need the mask? None of it makes common sense. The curve has flattened but now we have "red counties" to keep the scare alive until the election is over. DeWine is right with you in the trump-derangement syndrome. That's why Ohio is where it is. South Dakota is doing great with no restrictions or closures of any kind. Further, the economic impact this is having will be way more detrimental to our society that the virus ever could be.

I find it odd how leftists swear by "science" when it comes to covid but deny science when it comes to gender.

Nope...you broke it. You're a "never Trump" guy. Leave Trump's name out of an argument and you lose all points to your argument.