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Put my new Terry’s seat on her and took a 315 mile ride. Very happy with my new seat.

1 & 2 - There are no absolutes in virus transmission. You have to think of it as a probability problem. If you wear a mask, you reduce the probability that you will inhale infected droplets. If I'm unknowingly infected and I'm wearing a mask, I reduce the probability that I'll transmit infected droplets. Neither are 100% but the reduction due to the mask is much greater for the transmitter than for the receiver. Since EVERYBODY is potentially a transmitter (and receiver), the transmission will be reduced most effectively if EVERYBODY wears a mask. 3 - The latest CDC statements are referring to aerosolized particles which are much smaller than droplets. There is some evidence that coronavirus can be transmitted by these but it's a much smaller probability than by droplet transmission. The CDC's apparent conflict is the difference between scientists who want to be as safe as possible and government policy to inform the public about what we can reasonably do. It's not reasonable to expect everybody to wear a respirator capable of stopping 2micron particles to make us just a little bit safer. Any time you have a cost/benefit discussion, there will always be a difference of opinion - in this case, the scientists disagree with government policy. Last Friday the CDC released the scientists statements and yesterday the government told them to stop saying it. If you decide to not wear your helmet and are killed is a crash because of it, that doesn't affect me (much). If you wear your helmet, your chance of surviving is greater. If you're shedding coronavirus and you don't wear a mask, you could unknowingly kill my Mom and Dad. If you wear a mask, my parents have a better chance of surviving a chance encounter with you.

CJ74, your not helping your argument. Most of the conservative members of this forum, including myself, think your an idiot. Just because some conspiracy nut on FB post a meme does not make it true. Masks reduce the spread of respiratory infections, covid, common cold, flu, doesnt matter. Better masks are more effective but any masks help. Same as wearing a bandana reduces the dust you inhale but wearing better masks reduces it more or eliminates it. If both the asymptomatic person shedding the virus and person that could be infected are wearing masks it reduces the chance much more than one alone. However I do think the risks with this disease are overblown and shutting down the economy was an overreaction with a bigger impact than Covid by itself will have. That does not mean Covid is not a highly infective disease with a greater chance of death than the usual season virus, just that it not as bad as the media is making it out.

I've stayed out of this shitshow so far but you ask a reasonable question and sound like you would like a real answer so here goes. The mask I wear is not for me, it's for you. I'm not able to work from home and isolate myself from the world so that puts me at a higher risk for contracting COVID. If I'm asymptomatic or pre-symptomatic, my sneeze, cough, or even speaking could spray droplets carrying coronavirus. If you're not wearing a mask in public, you could, unknowingly, be spreading it to me or some other "higher risk" person that you love. At my workplace, I often can work distantly from others but I often have to be closer. We wear the damn masks when we're close, but mine is sitting on the desk in front of me right now. And, like Pauly, I'm about as politically conservative as you can get. But I believe the science that says that masks DO work.

WOW, WOW, WOW... the OR has become like the NFL, I really enjoy football, because for three hours I can just enjoy my shitty Browns and the NFL. Now I have to get through social/political demonstrations, blah, blah, blah around my football. I come to the OR to share motorcycle enthusiasm with others and look for rides. I know there are pages like this on the OR to exchange ideas, but then it denigrates into name calling to humiliate each other. I really enjoy the OR, just going to stay off this page, remember we came on this website because we enjoy riding bikes! BTW, my doctors tell me I am at triple risk due to health issues and have ridden over 14,000 miles this year all over the country. After the consultants projected 2.2 million people could die from covid this year and the numbers were at a pace of less than 10%, I wasn't going to change many things in my life, unless authorities forced me. I wear a mask when mandated without a problem, it's not a religion to me, kind of like loud pipes save lives I do know the facts, the average age of death in Ohio is 80 years old and the majority dying are in nursing homes. The average person dying has 2.6 comorbidities, meaning they are really sick already.

No, we wear masks because we want to help protect the weak. We care about others. You on the other hand are a piece of shit that only cares about themselves.

Again... It isn't fear. It's respect for those most susceptible. Not that a twelfth explanation is warranted or remotely effective.

The stats are a factor of how many tests are being performed and how they are counted. Do all those countries categorize anyone who dies that happens to have Covid as a Covid deaths to inflate the numbers for a number of reasons including political? In the US, if you die in a car crash and test positive for Covid you are a Covid death. George Floyd is counted as a Covid death. Also, if you test positive and take additional test to confirm, all the test are counted as individual Covid cases.

It's already real fucking crazy. tRump keeps talking about a rigged election & then he's doing everything he can to rig it to his favor, then Don Jr. is soliciting an "army" of supporters to harass people at the polls. Then tRump needs to fill RBG's spot in the Supreme court right away so when he gets voted out & doesn't want to leave he has protection. Then there's Ohio with only 1 drop box for each county (850,000 voters in Cuyahoga county, 15, 864 in Harrison county). Still lots of suckers for the con man though.