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I tend to agree with this. My gut tells me that the deepening divide in political climate in our county is a contributing factor & is going to lead to more extreme type behavior. Unfortunately, I think the gun control argument is just going to deepen that divide even more. Every time the gun control debate gains momentum, the one thing you can count on is more guns will be produced and sold. For sake of argument, lets say all legal access to guns, or certain types of guns was banned (which seems to be what Tonik is thinking but lacks the balls to say). Those guns will still be available to those that choose to break the laws...just as heroin, cocaine, etc are available today. Law abiding citizens, however, would be the ones without access. I could leave my house right now and have heroin or cocaine in my hands by lunchtime. How would controlling access to guns be any different?

It's raining this am so why not change my front tire.

I was in your same position back in the day. I even started on a 1k as well. Just ride your own ride, no one cares if you can or cant keep up it's not a competition. My first ride with these guys shocked me about how smooth and silky these guys are when they ride, not to mention the pace they ride for 2-3 hundred miles at a time lol. Oh, and I had them waiting at every stop, I was so slow they took turns sweeping me . After tens of thousands of miles on twisty roads, I'd like to think that I have some sort of pace, although admittedly I've slowed down on the street since I've gone to the track. It motivated me to become a better rider so one day I could be like those guys. If you attend this ride I just ask you to do these things: Ride your own ride, you will not get left behind or laughed at for the pace you feel comfortable with. You have a great guy sweeping you, ask him the questions that you have. Listen to the advice that is given. These guys know what they are talking about and have tens of thousands of miles running at "the pace".

That's it I am bring out the big gun. My Flight line scoot, RIP

Whoa, let's stop right here. First, trying to keep up is NOT the goal. Ride your ride, your pace. Don't worry about keeping up, they wait for people to catch up at the stops/turns. There's no trophies at the end of the ride, so it's not worth wadding up your bike trying to keep up.

Haha no doubt you're more experienced than me, but you need to start somewhere. I just ride to have fun because it's something I genuinely enjoy, and I'm trying to find some new people to ride with.

Trying to avoid threatening them because I feel that rarely works. I still have a few things I kept up my sleeve in the event this goes further. I've got full recordings of everything that happened that day, including the crash and aftermath. (Benefits of being a motovlogger) - My best friend growing up is an attorney and said he'd draft me a letter to send to them if they don't get me a response in the near future. If I have too, he will also help me file a small claims lawsuit and I'll be including all of the other damaged stuff that I didn't include in the original request along with mounting/balancing and include costs for labor and if I'm permitted by law, include attorney fees (my buddy said I might not be able to include that though). I'm still going to give them the opportunity to do the right thing before I move forward, but I'm only going to wait a little bit longer without a resolution.

Watch out, @Tonik might buy it, wad it up in a ditch and make money off it.

First of all, let's try to play nice, and start where we can agree: Everyone would like to eliminate mass shootings (or all shootings, if that's possible) from our future. We're simply disagreeing on how to accomplish that goal. Fair statement? Doing nothing is not acceptable, neither from a humanitarian perspective, nor from a political perspective. Framed as apathy or optimism, doing nothing is perhaps the most dangerous option for those who support the second amendment. Propose a solution that gun owners can live with. Be the reasonable side, and offer some kind of compromise, or be forever labeled as callous rednecks. The same needs to be true on the opposing side of the debate. Un-inventing the gun isn't a realistic "solution." Repealing the second amendment is highly improbable. So what compromises does that leave? My personal opinion on this is that the 2nd Amendment guarantees the right to own firearms, but not rapid-fire accessories like a bump-stock or a trigger crank. I'm sure there are gun enthusiasts who enjoy both, but I don't think 2A extends to such ACCESSORIES, because they're not firearms. The gun lobby should be leading the charge to prohibit the manufacture and sale of such items. Yes, criminals will still obtain or make them if they want to badly enough, but at least it will be mildly more difficult. I also support mental health evaluations and/or more in-depth background checks. I don't take great issue with a reasonable (30 days or fewer) waiting period on new firearm purchases to facilitate said evaluation. I believe someone else suggested that your MH evaluation be 'good' for a number of years, and renewable, like a carry permit. I don't have an issue with limiting the number of firearms a non-dealer can purchase in a given year. I'm sure there would be debate as to what that limit would be, but I've read reports that this shooter amassed 40 rifles in the span of a couple of years... That seems like it would have been a red flag, if it had been tracked. As for copying Australia, @Tonik I would theoretically support that idea IF the second amendment were somehow repealed. With that said, I don't think you can possibly scale-up Australia's policy to work effectively in the United States. If Australia's gun problem was a flaming piece of chicken someone left on the grill, America's gun problem is a full-blown house fire. The garden hose Australia used ain't gonna cut it for America. Some quick stats on Australia and the US: Australia's population: 24,700,000 USA population: 325,000,000 (the USA is 13 times more populous, but less than 1,000,000 more square mileage. Population density of Australia = 8.3 people per square mile, on average. Population density of the USA = 85.6 people per square mile, on average. As I'll calculate below, that density increases DRASTICALLY in U.S. cities, which we have many more of, and where the majority of American gun violence takes place) 5 largest Australian cities: Sydney: 5,000,000 Melbourne: 4,700,000 Brisbane: 2,400,000 Perth: 2,000,000 Adelaide: 1,300,000 5 largest cities in the USA: New York: 8,500,000 Los Angeles: 3,900,000 Chicago: 2,700,000 Houston: 2,300,000 Phoenix: 1,600,000 (and for good measure, I'll throw in some cities in Ohio for the sake of comparison: Columbus = 860,000; Cleveland = 385,000; Parma = 79,000; Youngstown = 65,000) ...and now we look at population DENSITY New York = 27,016 people per square mile Chicago = 11,868 people per square mile Los Angeles = 7,758 people per square mile CLEVELAND = 4,666 people per quare mile Sydney = 1,053 people per square mile. Melbourne = 4,593 people per square mile Brisbane = 385 people per square mile (i'm sick of pulling population and square mileage stats from the internet, but is this trend becoming clear?) Cleveland (fucking Cleveland), which is dropping city residents like you can hardly imagine, is more densely populated than the most densely populated major Australian city. So let's be realistic about implementing Australian gun policies in the United States. The Australian government bought-back some 600,000 guns from its citizens. There are an estimated 310,000,000 privately owned firearms in the United States. The scope of a program that emulates Australia's model would be immense, and ridiculously expensive.

I usually tell students to use their head for something other than a hat rack. I guess to hold a fender meets the criteria.

We should stop publicizing all these violent acts in the news and only show the good. I think that'd take away a lot of motivation from a lot of people (the attention they get). But it seems like the masses only want to see the blood and gore on the news. Been like that for decades.

Ok, hopefully enough people have for ya. Hope you go and meet up with those guys and have a good time riding your own ride. This is a good community, we care about each other and hate to see folks get hurt. That's where all this is coming from, we're just not a bunch of dicks. Except @Tonik.

I'm one who actually rides all winter if road conditions don't suck. Just to prove that @Tonik is a grumpy, cheap bastard, I'll give ya $20 but you gotta ship 'em to me. Not gonna drive to NE Ohio for these. Lemeno.

Haha. Not for you, but for Noah who's first post was new rider tagged hooligan. Pic showed zx-10 and no gear. Let's get on the same page...

Just Saying!

@NinjaDoc, now might be the time to describe the pace you want to ride.

Honey, Have you seen my green table cloth cover with the dots? I need it for the party this weekend.

In my defense, the possible modalities used to murder others is quite large, and the perverted creativity of murderers extensive.

You forgot pressure cookers!

Where's that cable? Can I fall too?

Eliminate gun free zones and eliminate ccw restrictions. If one can legally purchase and own a gun he should be able to carry that gun wherever and wherever. That's a start.

All back together, packed and ready for a 5am departure.

Figures, I got the trans swapped for @Trackbikez.

Another one following @jacobhawkins for your viewing pleasure. Nice double pass by both of us near the beginning. When I saw it coming up, I was thinking "Jacob - go for it, I'm right behind you" and then as we are going around the keyhole and nearing the end of the turn, I was thinking "Jacob - hurry it up!!". lol. There are times when the wind noise isn't too bad, you can hear the two 675's winding up in unison. Pretty cool.

It's all part of the fun. If I beat you that I will savor it for sure! It's going to be close though, I need Antonio Brown to remove his head from his ass this week though, no temper tantrums. I tried to pick up Watson, that is a good pick up for you. He is on fire right now!

@tall_tracy I have plenty of suits and price points. Just trying to find one that fits you is the hard part. Shoot me a call or PM if I can help.

I have a size 44 suit for sale $200

Yikes. Maybe plan B was to drive into the crowd