Pxl356 Posted September 14, 2014 Report Share Posted September 14, 2014 Hey guys ,Quick question.I really would like to experience track day at mid-ohio and have a quick questions.I have a fairly new street triple r ( 2013 with under 1k miles ) , is it safe to go to a first track day withy this bike or should I try other options ?I would not mind buying a cheap track bike either sv650/ninja but I rather make sure I like the track experience before spending the money. On the other side , I would like to avoid to crash or damage my street triple.Is there any way to rent bike for the track or do you have any recommendations ?Thanks !PJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidgetTodd Posted September 14, 2014 Report Share Posted September 14, 2014 Safer than the street, it's a controlled environment. First day you'll be in Novice and that's a nice starting pace. Next day at Mid O is the 22nd. I'll be there as well as several others from here. I work there as well. I'll be happy to help as we as everyone the will too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidgetTodd Posted September 14, 2014 Report Share Posted September 14, 2014 Justin at Trakbikez.com does some rental deals but I'm not sure of the details. Yours will be fine though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pxl356 Posted September 14, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2014 thanks !As soon as i get the pant to complete my suit i will register ! looking forward to it ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowcel Posted September 14, 2014 Report Share Posted September 14, 2014 Try a day or two on your bike then start shopping for a track bike over the Winter months, there will be some great deals out there. Last Winter I purchased my 04 CBR600RR track bike for $2,100. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trackbikez Posted September 14, 2014 Report Share Posted September 14, 2014 (edited) Justin at Trackbikez.com does some rental deals but I'm not sure of the details. Yours will be fine though.Just fixing the quote so the website is correct Thanks Todd. Edited September 14, 2014 by Trackbikez Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidgetTodd Posted September 14, 2014 Report Share Posted September 14, 2014 Just fixing the quote so the website is correct Thanks Todd.I fail sometimes but the idea was there lol. Im looking for more sponsors too jussaying Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidgetTodd Posted September 14, 2014 Report Share Posted September 14, 2014 thanks !As soon as i get the pant to complete my suit i will register ! looking forward to it !They have some suit rentals there and many guys bring extra, dont let that stop you. I can help you get hooked up if you dont have them by the 22nd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidgetTodd Posted September 14, 2014 Report Share Posted September 14, 2014 Try a day or two on your bike then start shopping for a track bike over the Winter months, there will be some great deals out there. Last Winter I purchased my 04 CBR600RR track bike for $2,100.A couple for sale on here right now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F4iguy Posted September 15, 2014 Report Share Posted September 15, 2014 Planning to be there on the 23rd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trackbikez Posted September 15, 2014 Report Share Posted September 15, 2014 I'm also targeting 9/23 if the weather is nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidgetTodd Posted September 15, 2014 Report Share Posted September 15, 2014 I'm going on the 22nd fuckerz. Avoiding me, its cool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tpoppa Posted September 15, 2014 Report Share Posted September 15, 2014 Safer than the streetDisagree. In the one trackday I did there were more crashes than I've seen in my last 50k of spirited group riding. Of course, I don't ride with squids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidgetTodd Posted September 15, 2014 Report Share Posted September 15, 2014 Guess it depends on what org you do it with too and your level. Novice group with Mid O is a good group Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkow97 Posted September 16, 2014 Report Share Posted September 16, 2014 Disagree.In the one trackday I did there were more crashes than I've seen in my last 50k of spirited group riding. Of course, I don't ride with squids.Safer has nothing to so with frequency of crashes. I have crashed 15 or 20 times at the track. All but 2 were in races.I would happily relive them all to maintain my 0 crash count on the street.People crash more at track days because they get (too?) comfortable pushing their limits. They take risks that they wouldn't take on the street explicitly because it IS safer to do so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tpoppa Posted September 16, 2014 Report Share Posted September 16, 2014 Safer has nothing to so with frequency of crashes. OK, then how do you define it from a getting hurt or a dollar perspective? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue03636 Posted September 16, 2014 Report Share Posted September 16, 2014 Safer as in traffic, debris, ect not safer from people riding above their ability Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tpoppa Posted September 16, 2014 Report Share Posted September 16, 2014 (edited) This is not intended to insult track riders/racers, but it may anyway. From my experience the "safer on track" statement is an urban legend. I'll admit I haven't done many track days, but that's because I enjoy spirited street riding more. On the track I was more concerned with another rider taking me out, than I am on the street. I think many track riders get too familiar with only the hazards that are encountered on the track, and get a bit spooked riding a spirited pace on the street having to consider traffic, blind hills, debris, etc. Not all. I have ridden with some very skilled track riders, that are also very skilled street riders. But I've also ridden with lots of very skilled street only riders. I'm reasonably quick on the street, which doesn't automatically translate to fast on the track. I've also seen more than a few fast track riders that were not comfortable riding quick on the street. The skill sets are similar, but not identical. [i'm not considering unskilled riders, because I generally don't ride with them] Again, this is based on my experience. I have my flame suit on. I'm sure there are other opinions/experiences. Edited September 16, 2014 by Tpoppa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidgetTodd Posted September 16, 2014 Report Share Posted September 16, 2014 I'm unskilled on the street and the track and you've rode with me. I love the track and it is a safe learning ground if you leave your ego at home and ride with a quality org. Mid O, MotoSeries, are the top 2. I don't know who you did yours with but maybe you should try it again with us on the 22nd at Mid O and let's see if we can't change your opinion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue03636 Posted September 16, 2014 Report Share Posted September 16, 2014 You're riding with the wrong organization if you are concerned with someone hitting you. In 11 years on track I have only witnessed 1. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidgetTodd Posted September 16, 2014 Report Share Posted September 16, 2014 You're riding with the wrong organization if you are concerned with someone hitting you. In 11 years on track I have only witnessed 1.That's what I was saying, just in a longer more eloquent form. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tpoppa Posted September 16, 2014 Report Share Posted September 16, 2014 I'm unskilled on the street and the track and you've rode with me. I love the track and it is a safe learning ground if you leave your ego at home and ride with a quality org. Mid O, MotoSeries, are the top 2. I don't know who you did yours with but maybe you should try it again with us on the 22nd at Mid O and let's see if we can't change your opinion I did one of the KTM days at Mid O. It could have just been the people who were there that day. Some ego's were in full effect. There were a few guys that I didn't want riding anywhere near me...I certainly would never have ridden with some of those guys on the street. It wasn't a great first impression for me. I think some aspects of street riding are more controlled. For example, I can choose who I ride with on the street, and I only ride with people I can trust for "quick" rides. Again, this is my opinion based on my experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidgetTodd Posted September 16, 2014 Report Share Posted September 16, 2014 I did one of the KTM days at Mid O. It could have just been the people who were there that day. That was the problem there. Those are not run like a standard Mid O day. Come try it again and get a real feel for a good track day 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habi Posted September 16, 2014 Report Share Posted September 16, 2014 This past August was the first time I saw a rider take someone out and it was due to a stuck throttle. Shit can happen anywhere. The lights were at their side in minutes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschoolsdime92 Posted September 16, 2014 Report Share Posted September 16, 2014 I did one of the KTM days at Mid O. It could have just been the people who were there that day. Some ego's were in full effect. There were a few guys that I didn't want riding anywhere near me...I certainly would never have ridden with some of those guys on the street. It wasn't a great first impression for me. I think some aspects of street riding are more controlled. For example, I can choose who I ride with on the street, and I only ride with people I can trust for "quick" rides. Again, this is my opinion based on my experience. In my track day experiences, I have ridden with 3 different organizations and what I have found is that your experience is directly linked to how dedicated your control riders are to the program. Some CR's just want free track time. Some really want to help. I personally feel its a toss up on whats "Safer" from street to track. The track, I don't have to worry about gravel and debris for the most part. I don't have to worry about cars pulling out, or even how fast I am going. Its just me and the bike. I ride much harder on the track, than I do the street.This has its own risks, but some of the additional risks of the track are gone. I'm much slower on the street but I always try to leave room for error because of gravel, or horse poop, or whatever it may be. I feel much more comfortable going fast on the track, than I do the street. If you do crash on the track, you generally get spit off the line and out of the way, and you can slide to a stop. On the street you may find a Mac truck in your path, that will stop you. As I said, In my mind, its a toss up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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