Jump to content


Photo
- - - - -

Cleaned carbs = cylinder loss?


  • Please log in to reply
23 replies to this topic

#1 Blitz

Blitz

    Senior Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 920 posts
  • Joined September 25, 2011
  • Name: James
  • Location: Knox/Licking
  • Bike(s): 2003 GSX-R 600 K3
    1997 Kawasaki ZX6-R *sold*

Posted 27 April 2013 - 05:44 PM

Recently took my 97 ZX6r to Iron Pony to have them clean and sync my carbs.

After taking them apart, they said the screw that adjusts and affects the low end of the throttle (initial throttle on) was locked up. They said I could let them try to drill it out, but that might require new carbs if it doesn't work. I said leave it and just do the best they could to sync it as is. So when I picked it up from them they said they opened one carb more to compensate for the other one (whatever that means....maybe one of you guys can tell me). So today during rapid deceleration into a corner and then full acceleration out of it it sounded like I lost a cylinder and had a ton of power loss. It literally sounded and felt like I was on three cylinders.

On the way home (maybe 30-40 miles later) it started running right again. Anyone have any idea what that might be? The crazy carb fix fouling a plug?

Can a plug foul, and then become un-fouled?
  • 0

#2 ZxHooligan

ZxHooligan

    Learnin' the Ropes

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 544 posts
  • Joined April 18, 2012
  • Name: Corey
  • Location: circleville
  • Bike(s): 2005 zx12r

Posted 27 April 2013 - 06:18 PM

They should have just left it alone I rode with you last year and your bike ran good. I have had plugs in my tractor stop firing and then start firing again after the plug cooled down. It could be getting too much fuel now in 1 bank causing it to foul the plug.
  • 0
The question isn't what are we going to do today but what aren't we gonna do

#3 Blitz

Blitz

    Senior Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 920 posts
  • Joined September 25, 2011
  • Name: James
  • Location: Knox/Licking
  • Bike(s): 2003 GSX-R 600 K3
    1997 Kawasaki ZX6-R *sold*

Posted 27 April 2013 - 07:28 PM

Yeah.....if whatever they did caused it to start fouling plugs I'm gonna be pissed.
  • 0

#4 ZxHooligan

ZxHooligan

    Learnin' the Ropes

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 544 posts
  • Joined April 18, 2012
  • Name: Corey
  • Location: circleville
  • Bike(s): 2005 zx12r

Posted 27 April 2013 - 07:46 PM

I would be pissed too our bikes have a carb for each cylinder that doesnt cross over to other cylinders IDK why the would adjust one up to compensate for another cylinder not getting all the fuel it needs that just drowns out the cylinder the cylinder that died is probably the one they adjusted to compensate for the one they couldn't adjust
  • 0
The question isn't what are we going to do today but what aren't we gonna do

#5 ReconRat

ReconRat

    Senior Member

  • Supporting Member
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 8,864 posts
  • Joined August 3, 2008
  • Name: Tommy TuTone
  • Location: Columbus, Ohio
  • Bike(s): 02/07 919², 76 CB550F, and a pile of parts...

Posted 27 April 2013 - 10:17 PM

agreed, clueless carb tech.
  • 0
-Tom-
Posted Image
red= states I've lived in.
green= states I've visited.

#6 Gunner75

Gunner75

    Gun toting crack pot

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 1,336 posts
  • Joined September 26, 2012
  • Name: James
  • Location: Jackson Center
  • Bike(s): Bikeless

Posted 27 April 2013 - 10:38 PM

I believe i have heard more then a few issues with IP service dept. Sounds like there is a chance someone is trying to create problems to get more business, maybe that thought is out of place, but I have heard from several people after they took their bikes into IP to have them looked at that have more issues after
  • 0

#7 Blitz

Blitz

    Senior Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 920 posts
  • Joined September 25, 2011
  • Name: James
  • Location: Knox/Licking
  • Bike(s): 2003 GSX-R 600 K3
    1997 Kawasaki ZX6-R *sold*

Posted 28 April 2013 - 01:54 AM

Well if that's the case, I'm a customer that won't rest if I've been screwed over.

I'm going to find out exactly what they did and see if that's what caused the problem or not. If its their fault, they're going to fix it.
  • 0

#8 serpentracer

serpentracer

    Senior Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 2,526 posts
  • Joined February 14, 2007
  • Location: Cincinnati
  • Bike(s): 2003 R6

Posted 28 April 2013 - 05:35 AM

sounds more like that cyl wasn't getting fuel. probably still a dirty carb issue. the jets in the carbs are very finicky. getting them clean usually means replacing them instead.

it's going to be very hard to solve a issue that is intermittent.

usually adjusting the synch will not effect the way the bike runs beyond idle. so IDK what they did beyond a synch that would cause you that kind of issue.

I know you live in columbus but if you really need to, I know of a bike shop that could fix it. the dude is a god when it comes to carb tuning. he knew right away what was wrong with my buddy's suzuki intruder when it was back firing. he popped in a new secondary (or something like that) jet and viola...perfect running bike again. even though it was clean looking he said he guarantee's that's the problem and he was right.

Edited by serpentracer, 28 April 2013 - 05:40 AM.

  • 0

#9 cOoTeR

cOoTeR

    Senior Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 3,018 posts
  • Joined January 25, 2010
  • Name: Martin
  • Location: The Wild West
  • Bike(s): 01 RC51 project, 2012 ZX10R

Posted 28 April 2013 - 08:09 AM

A friend of mine has a late 90's zx9 or whatever it is. He recently cleaned his carbs. After putting it back together it ran for a second then started to sputter. He gave it some gas and it started to idle real rough. He hasn't figured it out yet but my point is the old ninjas seem to be touchy when it comes to the carbs.

Edited by cOoTeR, 28 April 2013 - 08:23 AM.

  • 0
Don't lick the hand that wipes.

#10 2fat2fly

2fat2fly

    Senior Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 845 posts
  • Joined March 30, 2012
  • Name: Mike
  • Location: Jamestown
  • Bike(s): 1991 ZX7R,1993 ZX7R,2000 ZX12R, 1987 YSR50

Posted 28 April 2013 - 08:42 AM

After taking them apart, they said the screw that adjusts and affects the low end of the throttle (initial throttle on) was locked up. They said I could let them try to drill it out, but that might require new carbs if it doesn't work.


The only way it would require new carbs is if the screwed up by drilling too deep or got off the brass screw. If they don't feel comfortable offering the service then they shouldn't be offering it. It doesn't take a NASA engineer to drill a mixture screw but you have to know what you're doing.


I said leave it and just do the best they could to sync it as is. So when I picked it up from them they said they opened one carb more to compensate for the other one (whatever that means....maybe one of you guys can tell me).


I have no idea why they did this. Like was stated previously you have 1 carb per cylinder and they don't cross flow to adjacent cylinders. Clearly you didn't have a NASA engineer working on your bike.

When carb jets are dirty or clogged they simply need cleaned and nothing more. You can replace them with new ones but that would be the same as replacing your car windows because you can't see out of them due to them being dirty. Remeber though, if the jet is dirty then you have to assumethe entire passageway the fuel flows through is dirty as well and you have to clean the whole thing or you'll be back at the same problem.

All carbs work by the same principles so every bit of kowledge of ZX6R carbs is transferrable to GSXR carbs. The following link will explain in detail how to clean carbs:

http://www.gixxer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=159718
  • 0
I am not crazy! My mother had me tested.-Dr. Sheldon Cooper

#11 2fat2fly

2fat2fly

    Senior Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 845 posts
  • Joined March 30, 2012
  • Name: Mike
  • Location: Jamestown
  • Bike(s): 1991 ZX7R,1993 ZX7R,2000 ZX12R, 1987 YSR50

Posted 29 April 2013 - 04:51 AM

Read this one too:

http://www.zx6e.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=16518

It is very clear on how to do the carbs.
  • 0
I am not crazy! My mother had me tested.-Dr. Sheldon Cooper

#12 CrazySkullCrusher

CrazySkullCrusher

    Mr. Fixit

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 5,896 posts
  • Joined August 4, 2011
  • Location: ohio
  • Bike(s): 73 cb850 cammer, 03 bandit 1200

Posted 29 April 2013 - 04:01 PM

Its hard to find a tech these days that actually knows carbs. Dude clearly doesn't know his shit. Any mechanic worth his salt should be able to free up a brass screw in an aluminum housing, they don't corrode like steel. Mail your carbs to isacs papa, he's a pro. I'd do them for you, and am more than capable of the job, but I stopped buying carburated sport bikes for a reason: I end up having to do carbs on them.

Figure out which cyl isn't firing, next time it does it open the bowl drain on that carb and see if gas comes out. Pull the plug and test it. At least look at it and see if the porcelain has build up on it, that will indicated a rich condition.
  • 0

If you love someone, let them go. Just don't get mad if they come back with the herpes.


#13 TSB67

TSB67

    Senior Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 1,460 posts
  • Joined April 1, 2010
  • Location: Gone
  • Bike(s): None

Posted 29 April 2013 - 04:15 PM

Recently took my 97 ZX6r to Iron Pony to have them


^ There's your problem.
  • 0

#14 Steve Butters

Steve Butters

    Gen3's daddy

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 9,245 posts
  • Joined March 18, 2009
  • Name: Tyler
  • Location: Maricopa, AZ
  • Bike(s): 2012 Honda CB1000R

Posted 29 April 2013 - 05:36 PM

I'm surprised they even serviced it... I thought 7yrs old was the max they would work on?
  • 0

#15 Blitz

Blitz

    Senior Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 920 posts
  • Joined September 25, 2011
  • Name: James
  • Location: Knox/Licking
  • Bike(s): 2003 GSX-R 600 K3
    1997 Kawasaki ZX6-R *sold*

Posted 29 April 2013 - 09:02 PM

I called them today, but didn't get many answers. The tech that worked on my bike wasn't there but will be tomorrow. So I'm going to call back.

I will say the manager I spoke with (I think he's a manager) seemed concerned and acknowledged that it shouldn't be doing what it did, and if it was something they did....he seemed to say they'd figure it out.

So I'm going to find out exactly what was done. I'll post that as soon as I find out. And I'll also post what they do to rectify the situation (if anything).

I appreciate the offers for other people to work on it. Wish I would have known about them before I took it to them. Now that I've spent the money I really can't afford to spend it again, but if they messed something up I'll demand a refund and take it somewhere else. We'll see how far that gets me.

Up to this point it seems they're willing to work with me to find out what the problem is. In the past when I had an issue with a repair they did (went down one tooth on front sprocket and it was rubbing the chain guard and they gave it back to me even though it was whining at speed), they replaced the sprocket with stock sprocket free of charge. So I'll give them the benefit of the doubt if they're going to work with me.

As for them working on my bike, I can say they're one of the only places I've found that will. Another reason I took it there.

Lastly, the bike is running now albeit a little rougher than before. I plan to take it apart and change the plugs before the Epic Ride this weekend. If I have this problem again, I'm going to drop it off at IP and demand they fix it right.....or demand my money back. I've never had any issues like this before they touched it. If it does it again, it's their fault without a doubt. Hopefully they'll do as they've done in the past and work with me to get it right.
  • 0

#16 redkow97

redkow97

    Aspiring lottery winner

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 7,814 posts
  • Joined September 5, 2007
  • Name: Chris
  • Location: Parma
  • Bike(s): 2000 Honda XR100
    2000 Suzuki GSX-F 750

Posted 30 April 2013 - 12:57 PM

Let them try to make it right, but the more I learn from working on the XR100, the more brave I start to feel about working on a bike with four times as many carburetors...

Youtube is your friend. Last night I spent 2 minutes searching, and 5 minutes learning how to sync carbs. Doesn't look that tough.

Everything is hardest the first time you try it. I cleaned the XR carb, and it took an hour (with gas spilled all over my work bench...). When I opened it back up to change the jets and needle, I had done more work than the first time, with a third of the time spent.

Plus now that's one more thing I know how to do... The time spent learning a little online is worth way more than paying a mechanic who may or may not screw it up anyway.

And consider Pauly or Hoblick in the future. They don't have nearly the mark-up of larger shops, and their reputations are important to them among ORDN members.
  • 0
- Chris
OMRL/WERA - N #524
MotoSeries - N #521

#17 SIR BANDIT

SIR BANDIT

    Newb

  • Members
  • Pip
  • 2 posts
  • Joined March 15, 2013
  • Name: David
  • Location: Columbus
  • Bike(s): 1991 Suzuki Bandit GSF 400

Posted 30 April 2013 - 01:23 PM

okay I'm sorry I can't figure out how to post a new threadbut it seems like you're having similar problems to mine. I'm new to working on motorcycles and today I went to take my 400 bandit out to find out that my 3rd cylinder has stopped firing again. now I change the spark plug in it about 2 weeks ago and that seemed to do the job but all the spark plugs I pulled out were very wet. however this time around the bottom of my third carburetor seems to be wet with what looks like dirty gasoline or oil now. I know it's very strange for oil to be on a carburetor I get this but what do you guys think is my problem?
  • 0

#18 ZxHooligan

ZxHooligan

    Learnin' the Ropes

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 544 posts
  • Joined April 18, 2012
  • Name: Corey
  • Location: circleville
  • Bike(s): 2005 zx12r

Posted 30 April 2013 - 02:08 PM

okay I'm sorry I can't figure out how to post a new threadbut it seems like you're having similar problems to mine. I'm new to working on motorcycles and today I went to take my 400 bandit out to find out that my 3rd cylinder has stopped firing again. now I change the spark plug in it about 2 weeks ago and that seemed to do the job but all the spark plugs I pulled out were very wet. however this time around the bottom of my third carburetor seems to be wet with what looks like dirty gasoline or oil now. I know it's very strange for oil to be on a carburetor I get this but what do you guys think is my problem?

Is there oil on the plugs or is it just wet from gas? If its just wet from gas more than likely the float is stuck in the carb. A stuck float will also cause the carb to be wet it kinda looks like oil when there is dirt on it
  • 0
The question isn't what are we going to do today but what aren't we gonna do

#19 2fat2fly

2fat2fly

    Senior Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 845 posts
  • Joined March 30, 2012
  • Name: Mike
  • Location: Jamestown
  • Bike(s): 1991 ZX7R,1993 ZX7R,2000 ZX12R, 1987 YSR50

Posted 02 May 2013 - 10:27 AM

okay I'm sorry I can't figure out how to post a new threadbut it seems like you're having similar problems to mine. I'm new to working on motorcycles and today I went to take my 400 bandit out to find out that my 3rd cylinder has stopped firing again. now I change the spark plug in it about 2 weeks ago and that seemed to do the job but all the spark plugs I pulled out were very wet. however this time around the bottom of my third carburetor seems to be wet with what looks like dirty gasoline or oil now. I know it's very strange for oil to be on a carburetor I get this but what do you guys think is my problem?


Without looking at it or tearing it apart I would venture to guess that your #3 carb has a sticking float needle. It might have a small piece of debris holding it open and this allows fuel to constantly flow into the carb. When the float bowl gets full it pushes out of the carb. What you're seeing is a result of that.
  • 0
I am not crazy! My mother had me tested.-Dr. Sheldon Cooper

#20 Blitz

Blitz

    Senior Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 920 posts
  • Joined September 25, 2011
  • Name: James
  • Location: Knox/Licking
  • Bike(s): 2003 GSX-R 600 K3
    1997 Kawasaki ZX6-R *sold*

Posted 03 May 2013 - 09:16 PM

So here's what it was....

I replaced the plugs on Wednesday and rode to work. Was definitely still running rough, though not as bad. Then on the way home it was like I only had three cylinders. Sounded like a 4 stroke dirt bike. I checked the plugs again and out the old ones back in thinking it was the new plugs since it was running better before I out the new ones in. Nope. Still running like shit.

So I called the Pony. Shawn told me to bring it in and they'd look at it. But I didn't expect much. I told him I really needed them to look at it ASAP, cause I had the Epic ride this weekend. He said they would check it out first thing. I figured they'd just say "nothing we can do about it."

So dropped it off today, and called them at lunch. Shawn said they had it apart and thought they knew what the deal was. I stopped by afterwork and they had it fixed. Turns out the jet kit that was installed by previous owner had these little sleeves that go in the emulsion tubes that have 4 little holes drilled into one side. If the sleeves are pointing the wrong way, they don't allow fuel to get into the chamber. He said one of them was turned around backwards. That's what was not allowing the cylinder to fire. No gas.

So Bill handed me the 4 little brass sleeves and said she's running great now. I rode her home and it was much better. Then I put the new plugs back in and it's running like a champ. Smooth acceleration, not any hiccuping or burping or backfiring like before. Best its ever run.

Kudos to Iron Pony for standing behind their work. That's twice now they've taken my bike back and made sure it was right. The fact that they work on older bikes and they stand behind their work will keep me coming there. At least till they don't. Plus they're almost half the price on some quotes I've gotten from the John Hinderer Honda Powerstore.

So after a week of messing around with it, 1 ruined ride, and three days in a row of changing out my spark plugs, it's running like a champ and I'll be ready to go in the morning for the ride. Should be Epic!

Edited by Blitz, 03 May 2013 - 09:19 PM.

  • 0




0 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users


Toggle shoutbox Shoutbox Open the Shoutbox in a popup

snot : (December 19 2014 - 07:06 PM) barron updated, everyone is busy...
Earache : (December 20 2014 - 12:58 AM) F-f-f-f-first
Earache : (December 21 2014 - 05:27 AM) Veni, vidi, vici -first!
gsxkat1100 : (December 22 2014 - 08:02 AM) first?
Earache : (December 22 2014 - 08:11 AM) Yup, you're first. I refuse to do it anymore as it's too depressing to be fist at 8:00 AM
Earache : (December 22 2014 - 08:12 AM) not only fisted at 8:00 AM but also first..... gotta learn to type someday.
snot : (December 22 2014 - 07:45 PM) this is what went through my mind as i was laughing :spank:
Earache : (December 23 2014 - 05:26 AM) OK...I lied. I am gonna do it again.....
Earache : (December 23 2014 - 05:26 AM) First!
redbarron77 : (December 23 2014 - 12:45 PM) NWS Section updated! Have a Fappy Holiday Season!
Casper : (December 23 2014 - 04:13 PM) Earache's on a roll.
Dying Shadow : (December 23 2014 - 11:56 PM) Ello all early marry Christmas
Earache : (December 24 2014 - 04:54 AM) An Xmas Eve First!
snot : (December 24 2014 - 09:38 AM) merry day before Christmas....
Sapphy : (December 25 2014 - 12:00 AM) First!
Shoop : (December 25 2014 - 12:00 AM) Merry Christmas! Now get to bed - looks like riding weather tomorrow, and Friday, and Saturday
snot : (December 25 2014 - 09:06 AM) merry Christmas!
Shoop : (December 26 2014 - 12:37 AM) First!
Earache : (December 27 2014 - 08:01 AM) First - latest one ever
Wojo72 : (December 27 2014 - 08:49 AM) Not first!
snot : (December 27 2014 - 09:48 AM) not second
Wojo72 : (December 27 2014 - 11:14 PM) last
Shoop : (December 28 2014 - 11:53 AM) Pitiful
Josh1234 : (December 29 2014 - 10:09 AM) worse yet, 10:00 am on a workday :p
Casper : (December 29 2014 - 12:02 PM) Workday? That sucks to be you....
Casper : (December 29 2014 - 12:02 PM) Oh wait, I'm working....
Casper : (December 29 2014 - 12:02 PM) Damnit.....
Casper : (December 30 2014 - 02:32 AM) Boom. First.
Earache : (December 30 2014 - 02:53 AM) Damn! Look at Casper being first !
Casper : (December 30 2014 - 03:05 PM) I'm normally on the mobile site and forget about the shout box. Last night, oh yeah baby, I remembered to click full version. :lol:
Earache : (December 31 2014 - 02:46 AM) First
Earache : (December 31 2014 - 02:46 AM) But where are ya today, Casper? Huh?
Casper : (December 31 2014 - 02:55 AM) Damnit.
Wojo72 : (January 01 2015 - 12:07 AM) I hope that 2015 is better than 2014 was :(
snot : (January 01 2015 - 12:44 AM) HAPPY NEW YEAR ORdN
Casper : (January 01 2015 - 05:28 AM) Happy near year everyone.
Connie14 : (January 01 2015 - 07:10 AM) First first of the year!
Wojo72 : (January 01 2015 - 08:10 PM) Dang. I'm bored.
Connie14 : (January 01 2015 - 08:19 PM) Go Bucks!
Casper : (January 02 2015 - 01:41 AM) First. O-H!
Connie14 : (January 02 2015 - 06:16 AM) I - O !
Wojo72 : (January 02 2015 - 12:28 PM) I have issues. It's 35 degrees and I'm thinking about taking a short ride.
snot : (January 02 2015 - 05:13 PM) got the bike out today for about 60 miles... it was in the bed of truck.. but it was out.
hahafzr : (January 02 2015 - 06:55 PM) yes 60 miles and not one drop of gas used. I sawed it to..lol
Wojo72 : (January 02 2015 - 07:45 PM) I couldn't resist. I went out for about 45 minutes. Salt truck followed me back into my subdivision. :(
Casper : (January 03 2015 - 01:06 AM) First. Woo!
OsuMj : (January 03 2015 - 03:52 AM) :p
Connie14 : (January 04 2015 - 06:06 AM) first.
bloodninja420 : (January 04 2015 - 10:19 AM) Passable riding weather in columbus. Anyone interested in getting out and grabbing lunch?
Shoop : (January 04 2015 - 05:46 PM) Ninja - hope you had a nice ride. I was out but I'm in WV and that's not in range for lunch - in this passable but iffy weather :hello:
Shoop : (January 05 2015 - 12:04 AM) First - Oh well, I was up anyway
Earache : (January 06 2015 - 04:55 AM) First
gsxkat1100 : (January 07 2015 - 07:42 AM) First?
Wojo72 : (January 07 2015 - 05:19 PM) Holy shit it's cold outside!!!! :campfire:
snot : (January 08 2015 - 05:11 AM) first... burrrrrrrr
snot : (January 08 2015 - 07:44 PM) good news.... tomorrow the daylight will be longer than today... spring is on its way!
Wojo72 : (January 08 2015 - 09:27 PM) Spring won't be soon enough!
Earache : (January 09 2015 - 02:01 AM) Could it be? First!
redbarron77 : (January 09 2015 - 05:22 PM) NWS Section updated with so much Pr0n, you'll probably go blind! Have a Fappy Weekend!
Earache : (January 10 2015 - 05:18 AM) First
Earache : (January 11 2015 - 02:00 AM) First yet again
Earache : (January 12 2015 - 08:22 AM) An 8:25 first?
Earache : (January 12 2015 - 08:22 AM) Appalling
gsxkat1100 : (January 13 2015 - 06:54 AM) First
gsxkat1100 : (January 13 2015 - 06:54 AM) Read my thread in OT for how my monday went.
Mr Anderson : (January 13 2015 - 05:37 PM) OSU is in the history books
Connie14 : (January 14 2015 - 05:28 AM) first
Shoop : (January 15 2015 - 06:35 AM) First
bowdog : (January 15 2015 - 02:35 PM) the Melt was good but should not have eaten it for lunch with two meetings left today!
Vulcan_Rider : (January 16 2015 - 01:50 AM) first
redbarron77 : (January 16 2015 - 03:45 PM) NWS Section updated...btw - a few shots were from here in College Station, TX. :)
Wojo72 : (January 16 2015 - 07:38 PM) OK...dumb newb question. Where is the NWS section?
Wojo72 : (January 17 2015 - 12:32 AM) First
Shoop : (January 17 2015 - 03:13 PM) Heading out for a short ride. JANUARY 16 and 51 degrees!!!
Shoop : (January 17 2015 - 05:51 PM) Well, so much for plans. All geared up but the battery was dead.
Wojo72 : (January 17 2015 - 07:11 PM) I got you covered Shoop! I put in a few miles for you today.
Earache : (January 18 2015 - 04:34 AM) First
gsxkat1100 : (January 19 2015 - 05:36 AM) first
Earache : (January 19 2015 - 07:55 AM) one
Earache : (January 19 2015 - 07:55 AM) two
Earache : (January 19 2015 - 07:55 AM) three
Wojo72 : (January 19 2015 - 08:41 AM) potato
F4iguy : (January 20 2015 - 05:27 AM) First first of the year for me.
F4iguy : (January 20 2015 - 05:27 AM) .
Shoop : (January 20 2015 - 02:22 PM) Dilemma?: You get a text that your bike's replacement battery is on your doorstep, It's 47 outside - clearly the best weather for the next week, prob two weeks. What would YOU do?
bowdog : (January 20 2015 - 02:36 PM) depends on if you can deal with the salt all over your bike.
Shoop : (January 20 2015 - 06:00 PM) 30 Miles! Didn't see any salt - honestly. We had some rain last week after the last time it snowed.
JackFlash : (January 21 2015 - 07:42 AM) First, from work.
JackFlash : (January 22 2015 - 06:19 AM) 1ST
bowdog : (January 23 2015 - 09:13 AM) first
redbarron77 : (January 23 2015 - 04:10 PM) NWS Section updated! Have a Fappy Weekend!
HeavyDuty : (January 24 2015 - 05:31 AM) 
JackFlash : (January 25 2015 - 06:54 AM) FIRST
Vulcan_Rider : (January 26 2015 - 05:14 AM) first
JackFlash : (January 26 2015 - 06:25 AM) Slip slidin' away. Slip slidin' awayyyyyaaaa...............
gsxkat1100 : (January 27 2015 - 05:49 AM) First... Stark county roads are actually clear!
JackFlash : (January 28 2015 - 05:28 AM) First First First
Shoop : (January 29 2015 - 06:59 AM) Saisho !
TimTheAzn : (January 29 2015 - 09:00 AM) Woot!
redbarron77 : (January 29 2015 - 02:50 PM) NWS Section updated! I know it's a day early, but I'll be out all day tomorrow, and don't want ya'll to miss out.